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The 3B Series Subsystem

Q. Is the 4-to-20 mA output of the 3B39 isolated from loop power?

A. Yes. The current output is isolated from the input and from the loop power.

Q. On the 3B system, can I power the current outputs without 24 V DC power?

A. Yes. A 0 to 400 W load, per module, can be driven by using the +15 V power supply voltage provided from models AC1300 or AC1301 AC/DC supplies, within the power supply current output rating. This is obtained by strapping pins 1 and 4 on the backplane P3 connector.

Q. Are the outputs from a 3B37 thermocouple module linearized?

A. No. A common practice is to use a polynomial statement via software in the user's system. The transfer function of the 3B37 is shown in the 3B Series Users Manual. A 3B47 thermocouple module does provide a linearized output.

Q. How can I isolate an input signal and also isolate the output from the power supply ground?

A. Use an output module in conjunction with an input module, i.e., a 3B31 and a 3B39. The output of the 3B31 is the input to the 3B39. (This is arrangement will provide 3-port isolation.)

Q. I have a 3B16 strain gage module, but I need bandwidth of 1 kHz. Can I cut out the filter inside the module?

A. No. It's not that simple. What you need is a 3B18 module!

Q. How do I set up the a 4-20 mA output from a 3B Series module to map with either the - 10 V to +10 V or 0 to + 10 V output signal?

A. All modules are shipped to provide a 4-20 mA current output corresponding to a 0 to + 10 V voltage output. This current output range can be quickly changed to correspond to a - 10 V to + 10 V output by selection of a supplied jumper on the bottom of the module. A jumper also exists to change the output current range to 0-20 mA.

Q. When I plug my configurable "3BXX-00" module into the backplane, I get - 10 volts out. What should I do?

A. Plug the configured AC1310 ranging card onto the module first. Until the AC1310 module is inserted, the 3BXX-00 module is not configured for any gain.

Q. On our 3B RTD modules, how does Analog Devices provide linearization. Do you use two end points?

A. No. The linearized RTD modules use three points to determine linearization for each input temperature range: TMIN, TMID, TMAX.

Q. I'm using a 3B39 isolated output module. When I apply a 0 to + 10 V input signal to the screw terminals just above the module on the backplane, I can't get 4-20 mA output signal?

A. The 3B39 voltage input signal (0 to + 10 V or -10 V to +10 V) is to applied to the 3B39 through either the P1 or P2 system 26-pin connector on the backplane. The isolated output current appears on the screw terminals.

Q. I have a 3B18 strain gage module. My bridge is imbalanced at the "zero" point. How do I zero suppress? It's not in the manual.

A. There is no zero suppression available on the 3B18. However, model 3B16 does provide zero suppression.

Q. Do you have an isolated input strain gage module?

A. No. The output from the 3816 or 3B18 modules can be applied to the input of an isolated module such as model 3B31, to provide an isolated strain gage signal.

Q. Why can't the 3B16 strain gage module handle 100 W load cells?

A. The 3BI6 provides +10 V of excitation with approximately 35 mA load capability. A 100 W strain gage requiring +10 V excitation would need 100 mA driving capability. To drive a 100 W bridge, use model 3B18 with a switch selected +3.3 V excitation.

Q. Do I have to return the current output from 3B modules back to the same module screw terminal or can I use a common return path for all my 3B current outputs?

A. With nonisolated 3B series modules you may use the loop power supply return for all the modules. You will of course lose the overvoltage protection that each module offers on its current return.

Q. How can I get a voltage output from my 3B39 or 5B39?

A. These output modules produce a 0 to 20 mA or 4 to 20 mA current signal. These currents can be run on twisted pair wires for some distance and then through a resistor. The current through the resistor develops a voltage drop across it (see Ohm's law). If a 250 ohm resistor is used, the voltage signal will be +1 to +5 V for a 4 to 20 mA current. This voltage signal is not a true "voltage source" with a very low impedance, and should be measured by a high input impedance device for best accuracy.

Q. What power supply do I use with a 3B01 backplane fully loaded with 3B16 or 3B18 modules?

A. A "fully loaded" 3B01 means 16 channels. Each 3B16 draws 45 mA from the +15 V supply and each 3B18 draws 50 mA from the +15 V supply. 16 3B16 modules would require 720 mA total, and 16 3B18 modules requires 800 mA. The only power supply that can provide this is the AC1307. It's +15 V supply provides 800 mA typical.

Q. What cable do I use with 3B/5B backplane when interfacing to another manufacturer's board?

A. If the manufacturer is one of our partners who actively supports the 3B and 5B series, they will have cables in their product line to accomplish this. If you are using a board from another manufacturer and they do not offer a cable, you can bring the 3B/5B input and output signals to screw terminals with the combination of an AC1315 cable and an AC1324 screw terminal panel. You will then be able to hard wire to your data acquisition board or its termination panel.

Q. How can I adjust the bandwidth on 3B or 5B Series modules?

A. The only module that allows you to change the bandwidth is the 3B18 strain gage module. The directions for changing the bandwidth using external components are in the user's manual. On all other 3B and 5B Series modules, the bandwidths are fixed and cannot be changed. The specification table for each module will give you its bandwidth.

Q. How can I obtain the custom-ranging program which will help me determine whether or not Analog Devices can make 5B or 3B custom modules for my particular input and output ranges?

A. Download the program from our web site.

 

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The 5B Series Subsystem

Q. I want to use din-rail mounting with my 5B03/04. How do I order that option?

A. These 5B backplanes (5B03 is single channel and 5B04 is dual channel) are compatible to standard din-rail mounting hardware available from Phoenix Contact. The correct model numbers to order from them are: UM-BEFE or 2955564 (1 piece) and UM-SE or 2955593 (2 pieces) for each backplane.

Q. How can I get a voltage output from my 3B39 or 5B39?

A. These output modules produce a 0 to 20 mA or 4 to 20 mA current signal. These currents can be run on twisted pair wires for some distance and then through a resistor. The current through the resistor develops a voltage drop across it (see Ohm's law). If a 250 ohm resistor is used, the voltage signal will be +1 to +5 V for a 4 to 20 mA current. This voltage signal is not a true "voltage source" with a very low impedance, and should be measured by a high input impedance device for best accuracy.

Q. What cable do I use with 3B/5B backplane when interfacing to another manufacturer'sboard?

A. If the manufacturer is one of our partners who actively supports the 3B and 5B series, they will have cables in their product line to accomplish this. If you are using a board from another manufacturer and they do not offer a cable, you can bring the 3B/5B input and output signals to screw terminals with the combination of an AC1315 cable and an AC1324 screw terminal panel. You will then be able to hard wire to your data acquisition board or its termination panel.

Q. How can I adjust the bandwidth on 3B or 5B Series modules?

A. The only module that allows you to change the bandwidth is the 3B18 strain gage module. The directions for changing the bandwidth using external components are in the user's manual. On all other 3B and 5B Series modules, the bandwidths are fixed and cannot be changed. The specification table for each module will give you its bandwidth.

Q. How can I obtain the custom-ranging program which will help me determine whether or not Analog Devices can make 5B or 3B custom modules for my particular input and output ranges?

A. Download the program from our web site.

Q. Can I order a custom-ranged 5B module with a 0 to +10 V or -10 V to +10 V output range?

A. No, the standard output range of the 5B Series is 0 to +5 V or -5 V to +5 V. Use a 3B or 7B Series module for 0 to +10 V or -10 V to +10 V.

Q. Can I mount the power supply for the 5B01 16-channel backplane, or the 5B08 8-channel backplane on the backplane itself?

A. No, it mounts on the bottom of the 19" rack mount kit, model AC1363, which holds both the backplane and the power supply.

Q. What are the resistance measurement limitations on the 5B34 and 5B35 RTD input modules, in addition to the standard factory ranges?

A. We have the capability to measure RTDs up to 1300 W in their temperature measurement range. This includes the increasingly popular 1000 W platinum version. Please contact Analog Devices directly for ordering information.

 

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The 6B Series Subsystem

Q. Can I get a faster sampling rate than 9.2/sec on the 6B modules?

A. The sample rate of the 6B Series modules is fixed and cannot be changed. You can command up to 255 6B input modules on a single communication port to sample their input signals at the same time by using the simultaneous sample command.

Q. I want to measure a 4-20 mA signal with a 6B Series subsystem. Which module is best to use, the 6B11 or 6B12?

A. Both modules are a good choice for measuring 4 to 20 mA signals. There are no significant differences in their performance. You should make the choice based upon other possible input signals that might be measured by the 6B11 or 6B12.

Q. What should I be concerned about when using my own +5 V power supply for the 6B Series?

A. The power supply must have a rise time and fall time (10% to 90% of rated voltage) of less than 150 ms. If not, the 6B Series modules and boards may be incorrectly initialized, resulting in erratic operation. Also, in applications where power supply voltage is not well regulated, or where power line transients can occur, use voltage clamp protection networks between the +5 V power supply and the 6B Series system to protect it from over-voltage damage.

Q. What RS-485 serial communications board can I use in my PC to communicate with the 6B Series backplanes?

A. Analog Devices recommends Control and Data Technologies (412-775-3456) opto-isolated RS-485 Serial Board, P/N PLCP0054; or National Instruments AT-485 Serial Interface Card for ISA slots, or PCMCIA-485 for PCMCIA slots. All of these boards have been tested with the 6B Series.

Q. When do I use a 6BPXX-1 versus a 6BPxx-2 backplane?

A. When setting up your 6B system, the first backplane connected to your computer's RS-232 port should be the 6BPXX-2 (unless you are using an RS-485 card in your computer). That backplane will convert the RS-232 signal into an RS-485 multi-drop signal suitable for all subsequent backplanes, which should be 6BPXX-1s.

 

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The 7B Series Subsystem

Q. Can I order a 7B module with a 10 kHz bandwidth?

A. Yes, the 7B40/41 are mV/V Signal Conditioners with 10kHz Bandwidth.

Q. Do you make "custom-ranged" 7B modules?

A. Not as a standard catalog offering like we do with the 3B and 5B Series. However, please contact Signal Conditioning Solutions to determine whether or not we can make a special version of a standard 7B model to suit your application.

Q. Do you have a single channel backplane for the 7B Series modules?

A. Yes, Analog Devices model AC1387 is a single channel, din-rail mounted backplane for 7B modules.

 

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General

Q. Are your signal conditioning modules intrinsically safe?

A. Analog Devices does not manufacture "intrinsically safe" signal conditioning modules. True intrinsically safe installations include the use of an approved safety barrier between the safe area and the dangerous area (where explosive gases are present). Our devices can be used in conjunction with intrinsic safety barriers available from other vendors to achieve an intrinsically safe installation. The user's manuals detail this.

The 3B, 5B and 7B Series are approved for use in Class I, Division 2, Groups A, B, C and D locations, where hazardous concentrations of flammable gases may exist only under fault conditions. Equipment that is approved for these locations is known as "non-incendive" and requires no special enclosures or other safeguards.

Q. Can 3B, 5B and 7B Series modules be mounted on the same backplane or used together?

A. The 3B, 5B and 7B Series modules have different footprints and pinouts and therefore cannot be mixed on the same backplane. Each series has its own family of backplanes. You can mix different modules in the same application as long as they are on their own backplanes. For example, you may choose 3B17s for LVDT measurement on a 3B backplane, and 7B14s for RTD measurement on a 7B backplane. Both backplanes can be mounted in a 19" rack with optional hardware, and both use similar screw terminations for field wiring.

Q. What's the main difference between the 6B Series and the other signal conditioning series (3B, 5B and 7B Series)?

A. The 3B, 5B and 7B Series modules provide an analog output representation of the input signal, whereas the 6B Series modules provide an RS-232 or RS-485 communications output. This output is a digital format and contains input/output signal information.

The 3B, 5B and 7B Series modules' output must be converted from analog to digital and interfaced with a computer. Various data acquisition boards from many vendors provide this conversion and interface, along with other features such as timing, triggering, digital I/O, etc. and extensive software options.

The 6B Series modules include the analog to digital conversion circuitry and a microprocessor that gives an engineering units output (degrees, volts, %, etc.) The 6B Series must be connected with an RS-232 or RS-485 communications port on the host computer to read the data. This eliminates the need for a data acquisition board and also allows the modules to be located several hundred or thousand feet away from the computer. It also provides measurement of up to 255 analog inputs from a single com port.

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